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Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse
Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel-framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in the WTC towers did none of these things.
The One Meridian Plaza Fire
One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the 22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an estimated $100 million in direct property loss. 1 2 3 It was later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant fire in this century".
The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of spandrel panel connections.4 Despite the severity and duration of the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part of the building collapsed.
The One Meridian Plaza Fire
One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the 22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an estimated $100 million in direct property loss. 1 2 3 It was later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant fire in this century".
The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of spandrel panel connections.4 Despite the severity and duration of the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part of the building collapsed.
The First Interstate Bank Fire
The First Interstate Bank Building is a 62-story skyscraper in Los Angeles that suffered the worst high-rise fire in the city's history. From the late evening of May 4, 1988 through the early morning of the next day, 64 fire companies battled the blaze, which lasted for 3 1/2 hours. The fire caused extensive window breakage, which complicated firefighting efforts. Large flames jutted out of the building during the blaze. Firefighting efforts resulted in massive water damage to floors below the fire, and the fire gutted offices from the 12th to the 16th floor, and caused extensive smoke damage to floors above. The fire caused an estimated $200 million in direct property loss. 5
A report by Iklim Ltd. describes the structural damage from the fire:
In spite of the total burnout of four and a half floors, there was no damage to the main structural members and only minor damage to one secondary beam and a small number of floor pans. 6
The 1 New York Plaza Fire
New York Plaza is a 50-story office tower less than a mile from the World Trade Center site. It suffered a severe fire and explosion on August 5, 1970. The fire started around 6 PM, and burned for more than 6 hours. 7
Caracas Tower Fire
The tallest skyscraper in Caracas, Venezuela experienced a severe fire on October 17, 2004. The blaze began before midnight on the 34th floor, spread to more than 26 floors, and burned for more than 17 hours. Heat from the fires prevented firefighters from reaching the upper floors, and smoke injured 40 firefighters.
Lax enforcement of fire codes in Venezuela was blamed for the malfunctioning of water pumps and a lack of fire extinguishers inside of the building. Because the building was empty when the fire broke out, no civilians were killed or injured. 8
The Windsor Building Fire
A more recent case of a severe high-rise fire is the one that destroyed the Windsor Building in Madrid, Spain on February 12, 2005. The Windsor fire was more severe than any of the fires described above, and the incident has been widely publicized, with comparisons to the fires in the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11/01. However, the Windsor Building, unlike all the buildings mentioned above, was framed in steel-reinforced concrete rather than steel. Hence it is described on a separate page, which notes differences between the response of these different types of structures to fires.
The Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire
The most recent example of a spectacular skyscraper fire was the burning of the Hotel Mandarin Oriental starting on February 9, 2009. The nearly completed 520-foot-tall skyscraper in Beijing caught fire around 8:00 pm, was engulfed within 20 minutes, and burned for at least 3 hours until midnight. Despite the fact that the fire extended across all of the floors for a period of time and burned out of control for hours, no large portion of the structure collapsed.
It is tempting to draw parallels between this spectacle and the destruction ofWTC 1, 2, and 7 because of the stark opposites: on 9/11/01, three skyscrapers were transformed into piles of rubble primarily as a consequence, supposedly, of fires -- fires spanning small fractions of each building; and on 2/09/09, a skyscraper remained intact after burning like a torch for hours. However such parallels may be limited by major structural differences between the buildings in the two cases -- one being that the Hotel Mandarin Oriental, designed by the famous Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas, had a full-height interior atrium, and thus had the hollowness that the 9-11 Commission deceptively attempted to attribute to the Twin Towers. 10
Perhaps the relevance of the Mandarin fire to the events of 9/11/2001 is more symbolic than forensic. The Mandarin fire is examined more fully here.
References
1. ONE MERIDIAN PLAZA, Philadelphia Fire Films, 1991, [cached]
2. High-rise Office Building Fire One Meridian Plaza, [cached]
3. One Meridien Plaza, [cached]
4. High-rise Office Building Fire One Meridian Plaza Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, [cached]
5. First Interstate Bank Fire, lafire.com, [cached]
6. Interstate Bank Building Fire Los Angeles, California (May 4, 1988), [cached]
7. U.S. Report on Trade Center Echoes Lessons of Past Disasters, New York Times, 4/2/02[cached]
8. Towering Inferno In Caracas, CBSNEWS.com, 10/18/04 [cached]
9. U.S. Report on Trade Center ..., New York Times, 4/2/02
10. Fire claims building at CCTV Beijing headquarters, reuters.com,
My Speculation
If you find out you have terrorists who are training to attack the towers and the new world order planners find out ahead of time and decide not to stop them, this in order to use them as their alibi for a false flag attack and to justify going into the middle east. Then you may have one of what may be many reasons why 9/11 happened.
Some people tend to believe that to think the government of United States committed a false flag attack against its own people is obscene and disrespectful to the victims. I say any person who can ignore the evidence and facts presented above is not only gullible and foolish, they are the very people that have caused the decline of the United States in the first place. By believing the disinformation given by the corrupt or ignorant politicians who demonize 9/11 truthers as being crazy, then by doing so they have not only sealed their own end, but have ended America through their own complacency. So much so that they no longer deserve the freedom America once provided them.
For the record I do not believe the entire federal government was involved, in fact I believe it was the elite bankers connected to Rockefeller, Kissinger Associates and many others that are the most responsible for the attack. I also believe that it is possible that their initial intentions were good, at least from the point of view of finding a way to enter and stabilize the middle east with the approval of congress and the American people. Considering nuclear proliferation, population and other global issues facing the world, I can understand why some might feel that the sacrificing of others for the greater good of possibly saving millions in the future might be considered valid.
Nevertheless regardless of their reasons good or bad, murder was committed and then covered up regardless of their possible honorable intentions.
If you ignore the truth remember this; someday the truth will ignore you. America's decline will be complete before 2017, and those corrupt bankers and traitors of America will live long enough to see China and Russia break their agreements with Kissinger, Rockefeller and all the other new world order planners. Why this would surprise any of them would amaze me, especially since China has the ability today to survive a full scale nuclear attack. Why would China or any other country keep their word to elite bankers or NWO planners. China has already said to themselves privately that American politicians and bankers have no honor, so when it suits China, after they grow and modernize their military a little longer, they will get into their underground cites and launch an attack. A remnant of China will survive, a remnant greater than the population of America today. However the rest of the world who survive will have not hope of stopping Chinese dominance. Power in numbers. 6 months underground, clean up teams for the survivors, then finish off any left over resistance. Does this sound crazy to you, because if you think it is crazy then you are the guarantor that it will happen, or something similar.
9/11 was an inside job, facts abound, yet you call that crazy? Do your homework about the facts concerning 9/11 not homework based your own personal opinions or wishful thinking. If there is any hope of turning this around it has to be soon. Please forgive me but I don't feel that is still possible, however I hope with all my heart I'm wrong. Prove me wrong get serious about 9/11.
1. ONE MERIDIAN PLAZA, Philadelphia Fire Films, 1991, [cached]
2. High-rise Office Building Fire One Meridian Plaza, [cached]
3. One Meridien Plaza, [cached]
4. High-rise Office Building Fire One Meridian Plaza Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, [cached]
5. First Interstate Bank Fire, lafire.com, [cached]
6. Interstate Bank Building Fire Los Angeles, California (May 4, 1988), [cached]
7. U.S. Report on Trade Center Echoes Lessons of Past Disasters, New York Times, 4/2/02[cached]
8. Towering Inferno In Caracas, CBSNEWS.com, 10/18/04 [cached]
9. U.S. Report on Trade Center ..., New York Times, 4/2/02
10. Fire claims building at CCTV Beijing headquarters, reuters.com,
My Speculation
If you find out you have terrorists who are training to attack the towers and the new world order planners find out ahead of time and decide not to stop them, this in order to use them as their alibi for a false flag attack and to justify going into the middle east. Then you may have one of what may be many reasons why 9/11 happened.
Some people tend to believe that to think the government of United States committed a false flag attack against its own people is obscene and disrespectful to the victims. I say any person who can ignore the evidence and facts presented above is not only gullible and foolish, they are the very people that have caused the decline of the United States in the first place. By believing the disinformation given by the corrupt or ignorant politicians who demonize 9/11 truthers as being crazy, then by doing so they have not only sealed their own end, but have ended America through their own complacency. So much so that they no longer deserve the freedom America once provided them.
For the record I do not believe the entire federal government was involved, in fact I believe it was the elite bankers connected to Rockefeller, Kissinger Associates and many others that are the most responsible for the attack. I also believe that it is possible that their initial intentions were good, at least from the point of view of finding a way to enter and stabilize the middle east with the approval of congress and the American people. Considering nuclear proliferation, population and other global issues facing the world, I can understand why some might feel that the sacrificing of others for the greater good of possibly saving millions in the future might be considered valid.
Nevertheless regardless of their reasons good or bad, murder was committed and then covered up regardless of their possible honorable intentions.
If you ignore the truth remember this; someday the truth will ignore you. America's decline will be complete before 2017, and those corrupt bankers and traitors of America will live long enough to see China and Russia break their agreements with Kissinger, Rockefeller and all the other new world order planners. Why this would surprise any of them would amaze me, especially since China has the ability today to survive a full scale nuclear attack. Why would China or any other country keep their word to elite bankers or NWO planners. China has already said to themselves privately that American politicians and bankers have no honor, so when it suits China, after they grow and modernize their military a little longer, they will get into their underground cites and launch an attack. A remnant of China will survive, a remnant greater than the population of America today. However the rest of the world who survive will have not hope of stopping Chinese dominance. Power in numbers. 6 months underground, clean up teams for the survivors, then finish off any left over resistance. Does this sound crazy to you, because if you think it is crazy then you are the guarantor that it will happen, or something similar.
9/11 was an inside job, facts abound, yet you call that crazy? Do your homework about the facts concerning 9/11 not homework based your own personal opinions or wishful thinking. If there is any hope of turning this around it has to be soon. Please forgive me but I don't feel that is still possible, however I hope with all my heart I'm wrong. Prove me wrong get serious about 9/11.
